Stimul8 Pumped is Everything WRONG with Proprietary Blends

Finaflex Stimul8 Pumped

Stimu8 Pumped is a new stimulant free pre workout from Finaflex that is not going to live up to its name. We can only hope it’ll be cheap.

2016 was generally a fantastic year for new supplement releases. Sometimes we get criticized for only covering products we like, but the fact is that there’s just too much good stuff to be wasting time on underdosed junk from certain brands.

But sometimes, a company serves up a lemon and the product deserves to be criticized. Finaflex just made that list.

The brand famous for their high-intensity pre workout, Stimul8, is releasing a new stimulant-free pre workout that is the complete antithesis of what companies should be doing in this day and age

Stimul8 Pumped is a new unflavored pre workout additive that has just 1 gram of three active ingredients, and at least two of them are most definitely underdosed. It’s possible that all three ingredients are underdosed, but we can’t be 100% sure because it’s in a proprietary blend.

The only saving grace is that this is an unflavored additive product (competitive with 360PUMP and MTS Vasky), so at the right price, it’s possibly acceptable. That’s why you should check the best deals and sign up for PricePlow alerts below:

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If Names Could Deceive

First, let’s talk about the name. It’s pronounced “Stimulate Pumped”, right?

In what world is it a good idea to call a product “Stimulate” if it doesn’t actually stimulate you??? This is simply deceptive to a user who doesn’t read nor understand labels.

You would think this name would represent a pumped-up version of the heavily-stimmed product of the same name… but you’d be wrong.

Second, let’s talk about this word “Pumped” — but in order to do that, we have to look at the ingredient label:

Stimul8 Pumped Ingredients

You’re familiar with the usual flow of our blog posts by now. In this section, we break down a product ingredient by ingredient, giving you little nuggets of knowledge as to what benefits certain ingredients offer and what doses they should be in.

Here, we’ll do things a bit differently, and can conclude that unless this costs under $15 MSRP out of the gates (and hopefully lower with coupons), Stimul8 Pumped isn’t even worth the time. Here’s the label:

Finaflex Stimul8 Pumped Ingredients

Looking at this label, there’s nothing stimulating about it….not in the least.

Yes, you read that right, a 1g serving size of three patented ingredients.

Nitrosigine® and AgmaPure™ Agmatine are noted nitric oxide production-enhancing ingredients, while elevATP™ is an up and coming performance booster.

Normally, we’d love a product that included these products if they were properly dosed, but there’s absolutely ZERO possibility that even two of these ingredients are at the clinically efficacious levels.

Here’s so math to prove it:

Running the math on Nitrosigine!

Nitrosigine

This is one of the most effective pump aids… if it’s dosed properly. Why Nutrition21 allowed their good name to be underdosed here is beyond us.

The ingredients panel states that there’s 25mg of potassium in the product. Theoretically, Nitrosigine is about 4% potassium by weight. But in Nutrition21’s patent application, tests on the finished product state that Nitrosigine is actually 5.4% potassium by weight.[1] We’ll be nice and use the theoretical 4% number though.

Crunching the numbers, there’s only a theoretical 625mg of Nitrosigine per serving, a touch over 1/3 of clinically effective 1.5g dose used in Nutrition21’s research trial.[2] Worse, it could be as low as 463mg if FinaFlex is using the 5.4% potassium-by-weight calculation from the patent, which would be in their legal right.

Compare that to Marc Lobliner’s MTS Vasky, which has 1.5mg Nitrosigine, clearly labeled on the container.

This is how people end up saying things like like “I tried a Nitrosigine product and it didn’t do shit!”

We’ve reached out to our contact at Nutrition21 for comment, but haven’t heard back yet. The issue of underdosing patented ingredients is discussed in further detail in the conclusion of this article, but let’s continue.

So this means there’s likely only ~375mg remaining of the 1g blend to be split between the AgmaPure™ and elevATP™.

Underdosed agmatine for sure

Agmatine has been shown effective anywhere in the 500-2600mg per day range[3,4,5,6] (we like 1-1.5g best though). It’s simply impossible to get even close to that level of agmatine dose.

Note that the original Stimul8 product contains no other agmatine (and no other pump ingredients in geneal), so it’s not like you’d have anything to start from when stacking these two.

Meanwhile, competing product 360 PUMP by 360CUT at least has 500mg available in their open formula.

Can elevATP save this product? Maybe.

Here’s possibly some saving grace in the product. Futureceuticals elevATP™ requires a dose of 150mg to be able to cite the clinical research.[7,8,9,10].

You can not-so-clearly see that this is the only ingredient where you could even possibly be getting an efficacious dose. But at this point, we wouldn’t bet more than a $5 chip on that.

elevATP Strength Study

This graph shows the increases in strength for the group receiving elevATP (TRT) and the placebo (PLC) group. This may be the ONLY saving grace for Stimul8 Pumped.

So our question is, what the hell is Finaflex doing here?! We’ve reached to Finaflex for comment.

Flavors Available

This is more of a pre workout additive, so Stimul8 Pumped only comes in the Unflavored option. This allows you to easily mix it into whatever pre workout you are using (hopefully an effectively dosed one).

Unflavored is just about the perfect flavor for this product, as its effects will hardly be noticeable, and neither will its taste!

Takeaway

Stimul8 Pumped represents everything wrong with the supplement industry.

PricePlow Dis-Approved.

  • First, you have a brand that’s taking advantage of their flagship product name in what we feel is a bit of a deceptive manner.

  • Second, you have clear underdosing and a three ingredient proprietary blend. Is it 2006 or is it 2016?

  • And third, you have raw material suppliers allowing their precious patented ingredients to be underdosed.

    This is how people end up saying things like like “I tried a Nitrosigine product and it didn’t do shit!” — which not only hurts Nitrosigine (and Nutrition21), but every other product that contains Nitrosigine!

In an era of extremely well formulated products (just wait til you see our upgraded Top 10 Pre Workouts list), it’s borderline criminal that this nonsense still continues. Finaflex should be ashamed of putting this product out, and all we can hope is that they put a $10 price tag on it or pull it from the shelves and seriously consider reformulating it with legit doses!

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