Meet the Man Who REALLY Formulated Pre-JYM

Pre-JYM

Jim Stoppani claims he formulated it… but a man named Brian Rand has other things to say….

In any industry, there are largely two kinds of people: those who interface with the consumers and media, and those who quietly get things done behind the scenes, wanting no fame and no glory.

But sometimes, when dirty laundry gets aired out, some of the clean clothing gets mixed up in the filth.

Such is the case with the Bodybuilding.com vs. Jim Stoppani lawsuit, where Bodybuilding.com is suing Jim Stoppani and his company PhD Fitness over the ownership rights to the JYM supplement brand mark. The lawsuit was later amended, with Bodybuilding.com also suing GNC for $100 million, since GNC is now selling their own version of JYM supplements alongside Stoppani [allegedly illegally].

Who formulated Pre-JYM?!

One of the bigger questions asked in our YouTube video about the situation (filmed before the $100 million GNC lawsuit amendment) was, “Who really formulated the JYM Supplements?!”

Jim Stoppani has repeatedly stated that he has. And Bodybuilding.com has repeatedly disagreed.

Well, if the latest batch of court docs are any indication, it looks like it’s actually one of those behind-the-scenes guys who you’ve never heard of and will probably never see on social media. Brian, we apologize in advance, but you’re about to get aired out with the dirty laundry:

Meet Brian Rand

You won’t find him on Facebook. You won’t find him on LinkedIn. You might find this relatively useless profile on ZoomInfo.com. But that’s about all you’ll find, until you start digging through the Bodybuilding vs. Jim Stoppani court docs.

On September 26, 2016, Brian Rand, former Director of Private Label at Bodybuilding.com, signed the following sworn affidavit:

Brian Rand: The brains behind Pre-JYM

Below are the most important parts. All of Brian’s direct statements are italicized:

According to this affidavit, Jim Stoppani did indeed propose a pre workout, but Bodybuilding.com basically trashed it and the business method planned, and created what ultimately became Pre-JYM.

  1. “I was responsible for overseeing the formulation, labeling, and manufacturing process of Bodybuilding.com’s private-label brands, which include Bodybuilding.com’s PROTOGEN and JYM products.”

    As noted at the end of our Jim Stoppani Scandal post, PROTOGEN is extremely similar to Pro-JYM. Potentially because Brian was behind both!

  2. In February 2013, Stoppani and his business partner, Mike McErlane came to Bodybuilding.com and proposed a pre workout supplement. It was manufactured by Adam Nutrition, and Jim and Mike (owners of PhD Fitness) wanted to sell it at Bodybuilding.com. Unfortunately,

    “Stoppani’s proposed pre-workout supplement formula had a poor taste and smell, did not dissolve thoroughly, the texture was granulated, and the proposed ingredients were too expensive.”

    Note that Brian Rand was not at this meeting, but another Bodybuilding.com employee, John Hardesty, was there and submitted an affidavit stating the same story (more on that later). Rand then finishes this point,

    “I later tasted Stoppani’s sample supplement and independently reached the same conclusion.”

  3. Pre JYM Ingredients

    The Pre JYM Ingredients to follow along

    This section edited for readability:

    “because Stoppani’s proposed pre-workout supplement formula was unusable and unsaleable, I needed to fundamentally rebuild the pre-workout supplement formula that ultimately became “Pre JYM.”

    Among the active ingredient formulation changes that I identified and for which I was responsible, and that Bodybuilding.com implemented in manufacturing Pre JYM, were the following:

    • we added creatine hydrochloride (which was entirely absent from Stoppani’s “formula”);
    • we increased the amount of caffeine;
    • we increased the amount of L-tyrosine;
    • we increased the amount of citrulline malate;
    • we increased the amount of alpha-glyceryl phosphoryl choline (since the amount in Stoppani’s “formula” was too low to be efficacious);
    • we reduced the amount of beta-alanine (since the elevated amount in Stoppani’s “formula” could cause adverse side effects);
    • we removed L-glutamine;
    • we removed beta phenylethylamine; and
    • we removed the probiotic.
    • I also reworked the flavor system to address the offensive flavor and smell of Stoppani’s powder.
    • Finally, at my instigation, we used soy to instantize the amino acids, which was essential to the “mixability” and solubility of the powder when mixed with water (which was a fundamental problem with the formulation Stoppani had presented).”
  4. Pro JYM vs. Protogen

    The frist time we posted this image, originally asked, These two labels look way too familiar. Did someone just take the Protogen formula, cut it by 20%, remove the digestive enzymes, and then raise the price for Pro JYM?!?!?!?!?…. Turns out the answer was YES!

    “I also developed other JYM products with no contribution at all from Stoppani. For example, based on my idea and at my direction, Bodybuilding.com converted its own private-label product, Platinum Protogen, into “Pro JYM,” by removing a single (and expensive) ingredient – aminogen – from the Platinum Protogen blend, and adjusting the bottle and serving size.” (sidenote: exactly as we pointed out earlier this year!!!)
  5. In the affidavit, Rand also discusses how Hardesty created the logo, but for the purpose of this post, we’re most interested in his Pre-JYM formulation.

    So ultimately, the story according to this affidavit is that Jim Stoppani did indeed propose a pre workout, but Bodybuilding.com basically trashed it and the business method planned, and created what ultimately became Pre-JYM.

    How can he add ingredients yet lower cost?

    One issue we found is that Bodybuilding.com consistently claims that Jim Stoppani’s proposed pre workout was “too expensive”, yet they then removed a few inexpensive ingredients and then upped the doses on nearly everything else. Doesn’t that seem contradictory? How would that save money?

    We asked that same question, and were told by other anonymous “behind-the-scenes” insiders that “Brian is one of the best in the biz.” With his relationships and Bodybuilding.com’s massive scale, we’re told that he could easily do better on pricing.

    So why should I believe this guy?

    The dwinding #JYMArmy crew may be asking why you’d believe any of this. So remember that this was a sworn affidavit submitted to the justice system. If it is proven to be a lie, Brian will have committed perjury, which is punishable by serious jail time in Idaho – up to 14 years!

    We’re not sure how much Bodybuilding.com Blue Brian bleeds, but we highly doubt it’s worth any amount of prison time.

    Yet…. dumber things have been done, and perjury does sometimes get committed. So if that’s not enough, then you’ll have to stay tuned and wait until the second part of the story….

    COMING NEXT: The e-mail thread that could make this case for Bodybuilding.com owning JYM….

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  • RaShane

    I guess my question is who owns the trademark JYM and JYM Supplement Science?

    • Mike Alan

      looks like Bodybuilding .com

      • Johnny Cliche

        Actually, Jym belongs to BB and Jym Supplement Science belongs to Stoppani…the formulas are completely irrelevant to any of the legal proceedings, as they’re non-proprietary, so anyone can go into production of that exact same formula that they’re both selling as long as you follow Federal guidelines on manufacturing supplements…

  • Larry Madill

    Regardless of who formulated the Jym line, I still like them and I’all still use them. But … Wow.

  • Isaiah Williams

    So let me get this straight… Stoppani brings a pre-workout formulation to BB that he created, some guy at BB tweaks the formula a little bit to improve it, and BB suddenly owns Pre JYM? Wow, pretty opportunistic by BB, don’t you think? By this logic, whoever edited Tolstoy’s War and Peace book owns the rights to it, eh?

    BB is desperate. For three years they said on their site that Dr. Stoppani owned and created JYM, and now they’re pulling this? This guy Rand was “responsible for overseeing the formulation, labeling, and manufacturing process of Bodybuilding’s private-label brands.” Big deal. People “oversee” other people’s work all the time. Doesn’t mean they have ownership of it.

  • Ken

    This is what happens when you start believing your own press. I believe Dr. J really believes he created all of the JYM line. So sad :(

    • Isaiah Williams

      If Dr. Stoppani didn’t formulate the JYM line, why did BB feel the need to sign a 3-year exclusive agreement with him?

      • Ken

        I would speculate they signed him to a 3 year marketing agreement, bb appears to have formulated, designed, and manufactured the JYM line, maybe there was a chance to purchase controlling interest after three years, who knows for sure. I guess we should stay tuned to priceplow.com to find out what happens next.

      • Isaiah Williams

        According to the above article here, it appears that Stoppani formulated Pre JYM and BB’s guy Brian helped him with some of the imperfections (namely taste and smell) to get it buttoned up and ready to sell.

      • Cyrus T. Wolfwood

        How do you get mainly smell and taste when they added Creatine HCL, Citrulline Malate and additional caffeine. They also removed quite a few ingredients too. Your in denial. The gym formula would be crap without BB’s reformulation.

      • ken

        Isaiah, I think we both agree this is a total mess, I am an older man and this reminds of when young music artists back in the day would shop their demo tapes to record labels and the record companies would say “no thanks” and as soon as they discovered the song was not copy written, they stole the song and gave it to an existing artist. I dont think anyone will come out a winner on this, but I do believe GNC will lose.

  • Isaiah Williams

    “Stoppani’s proposed pre-workout supplement formula had a poor taste
    and smell, did not dissolve thoroughly, the texture was granulated, and
    the proposed ingredients were too expensive.”

    In other words, Stoppani’s formulation was really good — just a few things needed to be improved. BB helped out an already good pre-workout formulation and now they own the entire product line? Is it just me or does that seem like a reach?

  • DawnWeiner

    I used to be a big Stoppani fan, but all the defenders here need a reality check that he straight up lied to us and continues to lie. He said he formulated Pro Jym, now its right there in court papers that it’s just rebranded Protogen, and a BB house brand. This whole thing was a brilliant marketing campaign by bodybuilding dot com and a lot of us bought in.

  • Christopher Sotelo

    Wow this is all crazy…use to take Jym products but have found better products.Funny how Jim blasted Nutrabio but now makes a video pretty much admitting his projym only has 60-70% of usable protein per scoop just like Mike frm Nutrabio had said in his video a few months ago

    • Carlos Gonzalez

      I used to use JYM products not any more. I think the Jim Stoppanni knows his training. I use his training systems. The supplement line was a by product for him to keep making more money. Then on top of it all to keep everyone in the dark about the truth of the supplement line is shady business practice. There are better formulas out there with fully disclosed labels. That is why I now use Nutrabio. I know exactly what I’m taking when using the Nutrabio supplement line.

  • BC7777

    Interesting article, but you are missing the point of the legal case. I read the pleadings and the case appears to be simply one of who has ownership of the mark “JYM”.. i.e. the words and the logo, and who can continue to sell a product using this name and logo. The formulation and who created it is irrelevant in trademark law. Who created the name and logo and first sold a product under the name and logo is what’s important. Unless new pleadings were filed that i have not seen, no one is suing to claim any proprietary ownership of the formulation of the product..that’s a patent issue, not a trademark issue.