Kai Greene’s Pre Workout (Savage Roar) Reformulated!

UPDATE December 2, 2015: This product (Savage Roar) has been reformulated for the better! We highly recommend Kai Greene fans purchase only the one that contains Orchilean on the label.

Savage Roar

Savage Roar is a new pre workout from Kai Greene and Dynamik Muscle that’s been updated to contain Orhcilean, a new stimulant ingredient.

When excitement was building for the 2015 Mr. Olympia, “The People’s Champion” unfortunately found himself on the outside looking in, as Kai would not compete in the 2015 Olympia.

Rumor has it that his Olympia woes have something to do with the new supplement brand he’s promoting, Dynamik Muscle, but after all is said and done, we’re still not so sure about that, and the headlines have since moved on.

With the business and bodybuilding stuff aside, we decided to dig into Kai Greene’s new pre workout supplement, Savage Roar, hoping it’d be fit for the beast.

Reformulated — for the better!

The original version of this product was not our favorite. However, it’s been reformulated with a new ingredient — Orchilean — which we’ll have to get more information on. Before we dig into the other ingredients, take a look at the prices on PricePlow, but make sure you get it from a store that has the Orchilean label!

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Savage Roar Ingredients

Kai Greene Savage Roar Ingredients

Savage Roar is heavy on stims, but a bit light on pumps. But that’s small-fries compared to the last ingredient, which has a lot of negative research results behind it

As always, we’re happy to see an open label – but the first and most important one is this new ingredient that we still need more research on:

  • Orchilean

    UPDATE December 2, 2015: This is the ingredient that replaced arecoline / ArcoFuel, which we considered to be potentially dangerous. If you are going to try this pre workout, we advise you to find the one with Orchilean inside!

    We are currently researching what exactly is getting standardized for here, and will update this post when we have more information.

    Regardless, we’re extremely happy that this reformulation was done, even without knowing 100% what’s in this ingredient (yet).

    Stay tuned!

  • Beta Alanine (3.2g)

    Savage Roar stays on the more tried and true path with one of the best ingredients any athlete or bodybuilder should be using, beta alanine. This potent amino acid helps increase the levels of carnosine in your muscles.[15] Carnosine buffers lactic acid in the muscle helping to offset any burning sensation which could cause premature fatigue and you missing out on those all important final muscle-building reps.

    Fortunately, Savage Roar includes the full clinical dose of 3.2g of BA to increase your strength, power, and endurance.[16,17] A nice save from the inclusion of our first ingredient.

  • Citrulline Malate 2:1 (2.5g)

    Next up is another extremely popular ingredient in most new pre workouts, citrulline malate. This combination of l-citrulline and malic acid is a dual-threat ergogenic. It boosts nitric oxide (NO) levels better than l-arginine, leading to improved vasodilation, blood flow, and pumps.[18]

    Additionally, also combats fatigue by buffering ammonia from skeletal muscles. This results in improved ATP production as well as a bit of an endurance boost.[19,20,21,22]

    However, when this is the only pump ingredient, we usually like to see 6-8g of citrulline malate, which yields 3-4 of l-citrulline. This 2.5g dose of 2:1 citrulline malate might give us about half of that. So while this is a great ingredient to have, we’d really like to see a higher dose (or something else such as nitrates, agmatine, or glycerol) to really see the pumps we like when lifting.

  • N-Acetyl L-Tyrosine (500mg)

    Next, we arrive at the main focus-enhancer in Savage Roar with N-Acetyl L-Tyrosine (NALT). This is the acetylated form of the amino acid L-Tyrosine that is the more bioavailable, and expensive, form.

    This is a nice dose of an effective ingredient that will increase cognition and focus.[23,24] Additionally, it helps to reduce anxiety and stress by increasing the production of dopamine and noradrenaline.

  • L-Carnitine L-Tartrate (500mg)

    L-Carnitine supplements have been around for years due to their purported benefits in weight loss and increased athletic performance. However, it was later determined that this only worked for those lacking in adequate carnitine, particularly the elderly and vegetarians.[25,26,27]

    More recently, studies indicate that L-Carnitine L-Tartrate (LCLT) benefits a wider range of people in terms of fat oxidation and muscle recovery.[28,29]

    As we saw with Citrulline Malate, the research indicates you need around 2g to experience the full benefits of LCLT. So, you may see some quicker recovery in improved body composition from its inclusion, but nothing earth shattering. Still a great ingredient to have.

  • Caffeine Anhydrous (300mg)

    Savage Roar promises unlimited energy (which you may get) but we're simply not willing to risk it due to the inclusion of Betel Nut.

    Savage Roar promises unlimited energy (which you may get) but we’re simply not willing to risk it due to the inclusion of Betel Nut.

    Kicking off the cocktail of stims in Savage Roar is the undisputed king of pre workout ignitors, caffeine anhydrous. We all know it’s great for energy, focus, and increased performance, so we’ll keep the explaining for the other ingredients included. We will elaborate a little about the dose.

    As we’ve seen with most new pre workouts, 300mg seems to be “standard” amount several companies are using lately. This may scare some away from using the product, especially since it’s not the only stim included.. This may steer some people away from the brand, but if this dose is too much for you, consider going with ½-¾ scoop your first few times to assess tolerance.

    With this dose, it’s clear that this product aims to please the higher-stim users. Anyone who wants 200mg caffeine can make their tub last longer, but will get even less pumps. The good side is that they’ll also get less potential carcinogens per serving too!

  • Hordenine (50mg)

    Hordenine is a compound found in the plant, Citrus Aurantium. It acts as a beta-2 adrenergic agonist[30] and as a noradrenaline reuptake modulator.[31,32]

    Kai Greene Staring

    This is what happens when you make Kai mad and don’t let him compete in the Olympia!

    Basically, this means hordenine helps noradrenaline stay around your system longer, leading to more prolonged focus, energy, and alertness.

  • Synephrine HCl (30mg)

    Along with Octopamine, Synephrine is the 3rd compound found in Citrus aurantium, a.k.a. bitter orange. Synephrine has a structure similar to the now-banned ephedra, but it’s been proven to be a safe and effective substitute.[33,34]

    Synephrine triggers the Beta-2 and Beta-3 receptors in your body,[35,36] which signals the release of triglycerides into the bloodstream (a.k.a. lipolysis). This allows your body to “burn its fat as fuel” rather than using up your glycogen stores.

  • BioPerine® (10mg)

    BioPerine® is the well-known, ultra-pure black pepper extract used to enhance the bioavailability and absorption of various minerals and nutrients, ensuring your body gets the most out of all the included ingredients.

Flavors Available

So far, two flavors are available for Savage Roar: Forceful Fruit Punch and Pina Colada Crash. Each tub comes with the standard $30 servings.

Takeaway

Overall, Savage Roar contains a healthy mix of stims which should definitely get you amped up for your workout. We need to determine more about Orchilean before giving an ultimate recommendation, though. Outside of this being more than just a shot of stims, it doesn’t leave the user with much, so you’re really here for the stim and energy. The clinical dose of beta alanine is great, but why skimp on the Citrulline Malate?

Provided the price point is right, which you can check below, it may be worth checking out if you need a shot of adrenaline to get going in the gym, and are willing to ingest a still relatively-unknown. We’ll update this when we learn more!

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